incel 46 - risk it for the biscuit
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The optimist part of the incel would like to believe that his chronic emptiness will be ultimately productive by urging him to seek comfort and happiness in social situations in a way that solo hobbies can’t any longer. Sure, as of late, social interactions have gone wonderfully without any self-consciousness, and he’s sure that he’d thrive under any self-imposed challenges. The problem is that he’s not particularly motivated to seek these new risks, not out of fear but out of apathy. The problem before was that he envisioned the cons to be huge and numerous but the pros to be imaginary. All he’s done is get rid of the cons without having gotten to the core - convincing himself that there are people out there interested in deep, fulfilling relationships with him. The moment he does that, the pros will finally begin to outweigh the cons and he will begin to naturally talk to people. If he were to do that now, he’d still get in his own way by cutting conversation short, overthinking social cues, and keeping attention away from himself.
[...]incel 45 - what are your goals
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The incel has fallen into a rather dangerous train of thought - there’s no point in socializing or talking to women because all the places his friends would take him to do those things automatically equates to women that aren’t worth the effort (hedonists in bars, institutionalized sheep in universities). Don’t get him wrong, they are most likely great to talk to and have value in and of themselves, so they’ll probably find a nice bar Chad or uni cuck to share good times with. At the same time though, if he holds out for when “the getting is better” in some other imagined utopia, he’ll be like a newborn calf trying to navigate the new world of dating. But I guess it isn’t too much of an issue since the women he is aiming for wouldn’t have too much experience either.
[...]incel 44 - unfindable
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“why cant I get a girlfriend” why can’t your girlfriend get you
- Bill Wurtz, 2018-07-29
Well, for starters, the incel never goes out.
Why not?
Because being constantly in the public eye is more trouble than it’s worth.
What trouble is he referring to?
The incel has indeed sacrificed his precious time and put himself in uncomfortable situations before, and what did he get? The ratio is about 20 or so superficial friends he had the “privilege” of being nerds and wasting money with and has completely lost touch with, for every one or two actual friends. But still no partner. And since he didn’t particularly need more friends from the get go, so he considers this a net gain of zero.
[...]incel 43 - his people
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Will the incel know how to stop being a beta male when the time is right (not going after women)? He tells himself that he makes the choice not to associate with anyone of the opposite gender, but is he just deluding himself? Left and right, he sees girls he considers cute hooking up with guys he knows personally that aren’t any more charming or charismatic than him, and while from the start he had solid reasons to dismiss said girls as worthwhile targets, he can’t help but feel helpless as life passes him by and the circle of life rotates around him. He’s always thought of his strategy as holding out for the payout of a lifetime and not being pointlessly distracted by passing fancies, but he figures at some point, he actually needs to do something - get out of the starting line, so to speak.
[...]incel 42 - the competition
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While comparing oneself to others is usually useless at best and counterproductive at worst, doing so is an inevitable part of the mating process. The market in the city and most highly populated towns is oversaturated, so even if the incel is able to stand his own ground by being a healthy, loyal young man, there are nerds who rely on modernity to bolster themselves up the tier list. People, to be fair perhaps unintentionally, crowd around anime, emo aesthetic, Disney, etc. to make and maintain personal connections. Effectively, he’s cornered by alpha chads and coked-up beta males out of a niche. And while it’s easy for the plain as white bread incel to conclude with some black pill statement like, “There is not someone for everyone. Love is not guaranteed,” he needs to interject that this is by no means a concession. His odds of finding someone whose time he is worthy of and vice versa is not zero, so his job is to stay the course and not succumb to shortcuts of short-term happiness - to continue to polish the rough edges of his personality and redirect negative trains of thought. There is no end in sight to this long, unglamorous road, but the payoff is immense, even if he fails.
[...]incel 41 - what will this lottery ticket buy me?
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As a thought experiment, would the incel truly have any intention to be monogamous and faithful if he weren’t socially handicapped? And if not, wouldn’t that make his intention for seeking out someone as faithful as him inherently selfish? At first, this is a non-sequitur, but hear him out. Like a peasant suddenly coming across a windfall, would he just squander the loot and hurt himself and others irreversibly in the process? Would he have come to the same realizations about the nature of sex if he had had more ample opportunities growing up, or better yet, had stumbled into a meaningful partnership and been further along in life with children at a young age like many of his friends? Which version of him would be happier? If he believe that actions speak louder than words and that this fictitious version of him is the winner, does that make his current stance a compromise of sorts - a more neurotic (and probably just as misogynistic) take on the incel meme?
[...]incel 40 - don't just do something; stand there!
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According to conventional wisdom, extraordinary outcomes require extraordinary measures. Makes sense, right? According to the same cultural idiom, doing the same thing and expecting different results is insanity, or just plain irrational. Therefore, the best way for the incel to achieve his life long goal is to be proactive and do things that he wouldn’t have thought to do before.
[...]incel 39 - cumbrain
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As of late, the incel resolves to never talk about his plight with women with his therapist ever again, and instead challenges himself to bring up other more big-brain topics to his sessions. To accomplish that, he needs to do two things - minimize the instinct to simp and carefully take note of the thoughts and concerns that populate that now empty space in his mind so he has enough material to cover that oh-so-menacing 50 minute slot. A few ideas:
[...]incel 38 - horny isn't a personality
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Being more mindful of the words and ideas he chooses to share seems like the incel’s next step in becoming autonomous and losing his dependence on the male instinct. Being horny is not a unique personality trait, and nobody really cares no matter how close they pretend to be to you. For shits and giggles, he wonders how far he’d get in convincing someone he’s asexual - akin to the way baseball players train with overweight bats to make game day easier. He could sure as hell try, and rectify his arsenal of small talk along the way.
[...]incel 37 - MID TWENTIES SPEEDRUN ANY%
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List of every reason the incel doesn’t talk to women he likes:
- He’s been told that women don’t like a desperate person, so logically, he shouldn’t bother breaking the ice until he has overcome his concupiscence. They’ll see right through him.
- He’s not in the habit of talking to women, and the only reason he can see himself doing so is to probe them for dateable characteristics. He can’t speak for everyone, but if someone came up to him with such an agenda… he’d actually be really grateful, but most people would consider that shallow and want nothing to do with it, not to mention the evolutionary incentives are out of wack. Therefore, he does the women a favor by getting to the conclusion quicker.
- Speaking of shallow, isn’t going up to someone because they’re attractive a weird concept? Ideally, he’d be genuinely curious about their lives to strike up a conversation, and both parties would be better off after the transaction. In practice, he usually doesn’t get out of his own head enough to see the people around him, and if he does, he never sees anything worth talking about in its own right that wouldn’t come across as affected and rehearsed.
- He sees the kinds of people the women hang out with, and there’s no way he can compete with that level of empathy and compassion. He has also been told not to compare himself to people, but when it comes to being on the selected side rather than the selecting side of the gene pool, he has no choice but to pit himself against the competition to see what the hand he was dealt can get him.
- As long as he is unable to distinguish women he wants to be friends with with women he wants to date, he will always be hesitant due to seeing every little thing he does as a high stakes transaction.
- When he goes up to a dude, he is usually offering words of comfort or a witty add on to a joke they started. That’s his in, so to say. He feels like the words escaping his mouth has a wholesome purpose that will make someone’s day better; he would never talk just to make himself feel better. However, women don’t seem to operate this way. He never feels like he has anything of value to offer in exchange for his probing and prodding for attention - attention they could easily go to someone else for. In many ways, the thoughts and opinions he has are unique enough to guys for him to throw his hat in the ring, but are not usually pertinent to the vibe that most women in his circles go for.
- In his pursuit of finding someone that won’t be a liability, he tends to be extra judgmental towards women. Words that he uses to close the case in his head once and for all include: basic, cringy, emotionally unstable, normie, superficial, Disney freak, overgrown child, antisocial, entitled, superstitious, loose, political sheeple, etc. Whenever he finds himself simping extra hard, he puts up these labels as a barrier like an extra coat of deodorant and that tends to offer another 16 hours of B.O. blocking power.
The more astute of you might have begun to suspect that the incel is simply deflecting his anxieties about himself on other people. But whatever the cause, in his interest of following the golden rule, he wouldn’t want someone to be on his back with unsolicited advice and strict standards to uphold, so why would any sane person want the same for themselves?
[...]incel 36 - kawaii surplus
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Is a positive yet awkward social disposition all it takes to trigger the incel’s sympathetic response? According to a random ten second conversation he hears between a participant and a socially-handicapped but well-meaning volunteer, the answer is yes. In a strangely optimistic way, that means he should have no problem abating his thoughts and putting off the cringy first steps until the time is right. That is to say, he’s not missing out on once-in-a-lifetime chances every waking day like he originally thought. There is no need to feel FOMO and much less reason to shame himself for not treating dating like a game of whack-a-mole.
[...]incel 35 - herbivore men
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She really has no sex appeal. The incel would feel silly for even entertaining the notion. It’d be like courting a little girl with how restless and fidgety her resting state is, and he isn’t about that lifestyle. Poetically enough, the very thing that allures him to her is the very reason he doesn’t feel it socially appropriate to advance anything. Any small talk he makes with her would, in the back of his mind at least, be under the pretext of eventually taking the plunge and asking her out. He can’t imagine talking to her, or any woman for that matter, without this intention, and I’m sure this intention would be painfully obvious to anyone within earshot of him. And while he intellectually knows that there’s no real consequence of having his intentions known, he doesn’t feel it to be true.
[...]incel on the perc - 34
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Something tells the incel that if he takes his stimulant medication while seeing someone, the resulting tunnel vision would make him get in his own way more often. That alone is giving him good reason to stay off his meds - peace of mind. In actuality, when he thinks about his state of mind when off his medication, he is amazed at how little he thinks about women. Sure, he has his favorites, but they don’t occupy as much brain time as women (or one or two in particular) do. His time in college is pretty uneventful in that aspect as well, with no one going down in the books as “the feared one” like in grade school.
[...]incel 33 - stop cooming
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The incel could start writing something cringy and self-pitying like “It’s the same thing every time” or “How do I stop the cycle?” to open a journal entry, but then he realizes that he’s actually known the road to enlightenment, albeit uncomfortable and painfully unglamorous, for the past few months now and simply refuses to take it - stop cooming. To clarify, just what “cycle” is he hellbent on stopping? That would be the fixation on a sexual object and the delusion of playing out some role set out for him by fate or a higher being to shoot his shot and take what is “rightfully” his.
[...]incel 30 - I'M NOT CRYING, YOU'RE CRYING
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It really doesn’t take much for the incel to start daydreaming about a girl. With just the slightest deviation from the social script (Hello, how are you, bye, etc.), he already begins to question her intentions and to entertain notions of being closer to her. He’s so deprived of affection that the slightest hint of generosity will set off a domino effect of both good and bad feelings.
[...]incel 25 - the rumor come out
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When the incel tries to imagine himself in a relationship, he instinctively feels that he would be wasting their time and that sooner or later, they’d find fault with him and find someone else that can better satisfy their needs. Don’t get him wrong; he’s sure he could fulfill every other role in his life, but that’s just because in the case of friends, the relationship isn’t exclusive, and in the case of family, they’re stuck with him.
[...]incel 22 - self destruction
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There’s no way to win. In an effort to ensure that the incel doesn’t get too emotionally close to any one woman, he keeps his distance and chooses his battles sparingly, guaranteeing him failure. Even if he was assured that a person liked him, he would probably hold them to a higher esteem than himself and fear the day he reveals his true self and loses again. And in the event that he perceives the love to be unconditional or skewed in his favor, he will feel suffocated and burdened immediately as time has proven.
[...]incel 21 - socratic questioning
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If the incel’s dating strategy is to act disinterested and to only consider behaving like an actual human being after getting obvious signs from the other side, and if his ideal type is someone as introverted and passive as him, he’s got another thing coming. All signs point to what the people around him have been trying to convince him of the entire time - not just standing there but rather doing something.
[...]incel 20 - depression
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Q: Why does the incel hate himself? A: He is inconsistent. Q: Who is he doing all this for - living and whatnot? A: For those who don’t give themselves permission to live. He, supposedly, is the spokesman for the insecure average Joe.
Just yesterday, the incel realized that the very women the incel is attracted to (anxious people he is secretly hoping to “save”) are the very kinds of people psychologists say he is incompatible with. As he suspected, he can’t trust himself to pick out a good partner. Why the hell would a secure type fall in love with anyone other than another secure type in the first place? Is this that invisible chemistry in the room his therapist tried to convince him exists? He wants to call bull, but he sees it happen to the average Joe every day.
[...]incel 19 - self hatred
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When it comes to media and pop culture, the incel finds himself attracted most to codependent partners that rely on their victims’ inferiority to bolster themselves up and that serve as an outer voice for their interior dialogue (“You are scum” and the like), which worries him considerably. He reacts very positively to this archetype because that chain of events is the only way he can consistently imagine himself stumbling into a relationship. From the start, he doesn’t relate much to healthy relationships - however, get suicide and depression involved and now you’re talking. He has to be wary of this tendency because while the storylines in TV and anime always end up nicely resolved, there is a high likelihood he’ll end up hurt and even more desolate than when he started if he chooses to entertain the notion in real life.
[...]incel 18 - why bother
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The incel sees no reason to have a platonic relationship with a girl. Everything he values in a friend, a guy can do much better (and without all that stress!), and that has been the pattern for all of his best friends so far. The only exposure to the opposite sex he gets is at work or through male friends; in both cases, he wouldn’t go out of his way to hang out with the girl in question but rather “puts up” with their presence to achieve an end (making a good impression at work or getting to the real star of the show - her male friends). Don’t get him wrong; he has had some great funny moments talking to some of his coworkers, but all pleasure on his end was derived from the performance value of his shtick and the illusion of being a charismatic Chad - that is, not out of two way human connection, and definitely never platonically. You could consider it mental masturbation.
[...]incel 17 - you go first
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incel 16 - codependency
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Logically speaking, the incel should abhor the concept of codependent relationships - the kind usually built on the premise of scoping out one’s surroundings in search of someone pathetic and desperate enough to be interested, and of subsequently developing a sense of Stockholm syndrome towards each other for the purpose of giving meaning to their own lives. This premise is unlikely, illegal (depending on how far it goes), and most importantly, unsustainable in the long run. There’s a lot of name calling and ego destroying from one or both sides, as well as (understandable) resentment of these names that both bring up when they try and fail to leave and actually better themselves.
[...]incel 15 - ffs move on
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The incel sees his grade school crushes in his dreams every few months or so, which he attributes to going in and out of similar headspaces as he was in back then. More precisely, he chooses to reopen his fixation not on the people themselves, but his projected image of the ideal partner loosely based on them that has sprouted legs and taken on a life of its own. He just uses the name and face as shorthand at this point.
[...]incel 14 - eye contact
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The incel doesn’t quite know what to do with the feeling of helplessness he experiences when forced to be physically close to women, like packed public transit or small class/work rooms. The pattern of noticing that a girl is cute, avoiding eye contact, and trying to keep himself in check before conjuring any hopeless or baseless images in his head is nothing new to him, yet he has only now gotten around to describing this ingrained reflex. He imagines being so clingy and socially starved that he could very easily fall in love with anyone that is polite enough to give him the time of day or even bat an eye in his direction. At the very least, this is the script he was told by the internet as to how introverted shut-ins like him deal with the opposite sex - with his failure with his grade school crush serving as evidence. This script portrays him and his cohort as burdens to the people we choose to subject to our fantasies, and who is he to selfishly impose on the people around him who just want to study or work in peace?
[...]incel 13 - mental gymnastics
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Instead of taking steps to increase his odds of meeting someone he could start a relationship with, the incel is instead doing mental gymnastics to justify not even trying and instead feeling content with the status quo. If he changes his mentality from “I’m falling behind and there’s nothing I can do about it” to “I haven’t had a reason to start a relationship, and I still don’t, and probably won’t for the foreseeable future, and that’s OK,” he is bound to be more content with himself.
[...]incel 12 - dirty jokes
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Today, the incel heard a male coworker playing around with a double entendre about fingering with a female coworker, and a part of him was weirded out at how nonchalantly she went along with the joke. That being said, there was definitely a tinge of almost admiration at seeing people so secure in their sexualities - boxing on a whole other weight class. In his current model of the world - at least, the ones both traditionalists and post-uber feminists push - women don’t laugh at sex jokes and the ones that do are hoes, but this girl seemed pretty loyal to her boyfriend, so apparently there is more nuance to the situation.
[...]incel 11 - stay in your lane
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The incel has to remind himself to stay in his own lane and stop comparing himself to others when he sees a cute girl come up to him followed by their choice of a partner. The moment the partner comes into the scene, he gets to work micro-analyzing their chemistry and what the partner brings to the table. The outcome is a mixture of relief and disillusion - relief for noticing the passive, complacent roles a lot of these men are pigeonholed into (or worse, accept wholeheartedly), as well as disillusionment for determining himself the “loser” in this five second battle of the wits and realizing the wholesome values the person in front of him lives by and realizing how in the end, the random dude has done something the incel has never done - be considered worthy of someone’s intimacy. On second thought, he will always end up being loser with that definition of success.
[...]incel 10 - sociopathy
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There was a coordinator that used to work at the incel’s workplace who got suddenly fired a while ago. The reason she is on his mind is that the dissonance between the kind of person she was versus how easily he opened up to her makes him worry about his inner bullshit filter that he had grown to count on and makes him question his taste in women as a whole.
[...]incel 9 - inaction
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Why doesn’t the incel ask the people he likes out?
- He is so far removed from society that he will never be able to correctly discern attraction from friendliness, therefore he is forever doomed to put innocent people around him in uncomfortable situations for his own self-satisfaction.
- He is in such a rush to start an intimate relationship that he is hypersensitive to any and all positive affirmations. He is aware of this, and overcompensates by disregarding all signs that anyone could give him as mere delusions.
- People at his age have expectations for what they want out of a relationship, whereas he has none. Who is he to impose his juvenile ideas of love and sex on other people and waste their time?
- He bases the quality of his interactions on how playfully and effortlessly he can converse with another person, like a skilled game of tennis, but that is very one sided when it comes to what the other person would gain out of further interactions. He has yet to meet someone whom he can unequivocally affirm will fare better in life with him by her side as opposed to without him. He assumes that this is a step in the right direction of being less selfish.
incel 8 - values
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As for his woman situation, the incel has been slowly polishing his rhetoric, but hasn’t tried any major overhauls yet to his thought process. He can’t think of any reason a girl would go out with him, and every girl that he holds the light up against to inspect flaws he can’t overlook, most of which are not even their own fault but rather over compatibility with his personality or physical features.
[...]incel 7 - niche
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It’s only after reading erotic comics that the incel realizes how socially irrelevant he really is in his circles. Whereas the protagonists in those kinds of stories have leads to follow, he, in contrast, lacks the foundation to go anywhere. Along the same vein, anytime he does deceive himself into seeing a lead, he start fantasizing and putting himself in positions where he can’t win. His female coworker rejected him, his classmate keeps her distance (from everyone, actually, so he can’t take that personally), and his clubmate got offended when he so much as hinted at affection. But in his constant effort to supress his incel mentality, he reminds himself that he is in full control of his behavior and that he is also to blame. He doesn’t fully know how, but this is what he has been inculcated into believing, so he’ll play along.
[...]incel 6 - vibes
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The incel doesn’t think he has the emotional intelligence or ability to convince someone that he would be a good partner. He keeps assessing his current relationships with people for possible leads to follow, but never finds them, or for that matter, any indication that his situation will change any time soon. But of course, he can’t expect everyone around him to change in his favor; as long as he keep on being the same person and keeping the same thoughts, nothing will change.
[...]incel 5 - projecting
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The incel is fixated on the idea of seeing the people he cares about and identifies with the most score with as many girls as possible. His hope is that he can succeed through them vicariously, and that if other people with similar (supposed) mental deformities can score, he should be able to as well. In short, him cheering them on and feeling visceral frustration at any hesitation they show is merely him confronting his own demons and not considering the other person’s feelings at all.
[...]incel 4 - apathy
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incel 3 - empathy
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Can the incel love? Does he have the ability to love? He has been chewing on that question as of late.
Where does this notion come from? The incel has a notion that this isn’t a question most people coming of age typically ask themselves, as by that time, they have already committed themselves into lifelong relationships (platonic as well as romantic). Why is he asking in the first place? For starters, an inability to love would fill in nicely as a reason he is so inexperienced with girls, so he can’t help but lean in that direction just to get closer to some answer. But by far, what raises his suspicion the most is looking back at random thoughts and exchanges with people over the years.
[...]incel 2 - cereal and puzzles
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People have no reason to like the incel. A relationship is based on mutual benefit, and people are going to look for a partner that checks enough boxes on their mental laundry list. Why would anyone go for him, when they can go for the smarter, funnier, more compassionate person right next to him? This is analogous to choosing what cereal to buy at the grocery store. Depending on what the person is in the mood for, they could go for the saccharine goodness of marshmallows, or they could suck it up and buy themselves a box of whole wheat because they are health conscious. In this scenario, the incel has yet to find out what audience he caters to, or what selling points he would have as a cereal box. After a trial period of sorts, companies are incentivized to discontinue any cereal brands that find themselves in this purgatory of sorts as the real crowd pleasers take the stage. In his case, natural selection is making the adequate market adjustments. The big takeaway is that he’s not entitled to find customers just because he exists; he needs to adapt himself and give the right people what they want.
[...]incel 1 - self improvement
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The reason the incel is single is because he doesn’t put the effort into not being single. This is what he has decided to tell people when the topic comes up. Realistically, he can’t imagine a situation where he would have to justify himself like this, but at the very least, he has an all-encompassing answer to his dilemma that can be broken down into a logical hierarchy.
[...]incel 23 - move the goalposts
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At the closing of the year, the incel’s therapist challenges him to ask 5 random people how they’re doing daily. Unsurprisingly, he doesn’t end up doing the challenge, but this doesn’t have to be a problem if he doesn’t want it to be. He moves the goalposts so that reaching out to more people isn’t as mission critical as he originally makes it out to be. The adage of telling oneself a lie until it becomes the truth can go both ways; if he tells himself that his intention wasn’t to build a romantic connection, he’ll start believing it to be true. Hell, maybe if he goes far enough, he can turn into one of those hip asexuals with a poppin’ Tumblr page. Using another metaphor, he misses 100% of the shots he don’t take, but why should he want to play basketball in the first place? Sure, he might feel compelled to after seeing his friends make their shots, but he can play other sports and have fun in his own way that is true to his values. Granted, you could make the argument that his values are fundamentally flawed, but as his atheist therapist likes to point out, there is no absolute right in the world, and we’re back to square one.
[...]incel 24 - just git gud
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Because the incel is so critical of himself and his negative tendencies, he not only gets disillusioned when he doesn’t find someone as paranoid as him about not sucking, but he also pushes people away subconsciously with these unrealistic expectations that people either refuse or don’t believe they can meet. He has this quote he heard floating around in his head, and he doesn’t know if a girl told him this in real life or in a dream, but it goes, “I just don’t think I’m the right person for you; you’d probably get bored of me really quickly.” Additionally, he recalls his mom commenting on his demeanor during his high school days with, “You always looked really busy, like you didn’t has time or interest in women,” which is the most useful criticism his mom has ever given him, in retrospect.
[...]incel 26 - shit taste
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Could the incel really enhance a member of the opposite sex’s life? Just by being himself? He thinks about people with Asperger’s or any other neurodivergence and he doubts that they would be anything other than a liability to a partner. And even if a partner had the toxic, codependent mindset of wanting to fix someone, wouldn’t they choose the most physically attractive manchild to experiment with as opposed to the average Joe? He wants to believe that there is someone out there looking for someone like him to complete herself, but as great as that would be, he has to come to terms with the fact that nothing is guaranteed in life.
[...]incel 27 - I'm calling about your car's extended warranty
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Potpourri time - list of the incel’s intrusive thoughts when dealing with women:
- What do you want from me - from this transaction?
- What is a safe neutral response to her question?
- Why are you talking to me?
- How long can I keep this act up?
- Don’t talk to me; I’ll start daydreaming about you if you do.
- Why is everybody so cute?
- Have I overstepped my boundaries?
- Did I say something stupid?
- Don’t look at her eyes; she’ll get creeped out.
- Feign as much confidence and self-sufficiency as possible without making eye contact (a steep order).
- What would a normie say?
- Did I look at her face for too long?
- Find a neutral area to look at instead.
- Don’t bust out the self-deprecating humor; only say things that make you look cool.
- Where is my out? Who’s the most alpha chad in the room I can count on to keep the good times rolling and pick up the ball I will inevitably drop?
- Look sociable. Smile to show people you’re having a good time, even if you’re bored. Apparently people freak out if your face is neutral for too long.
- How short can I cut this conversation without being rude?
- What could I possibly want from this person? What’s my alibi if someone asks me why I’m talking to them?
- Am I speaking for too long? Am I giving the other person enough time to speak?
- She’s not into you; she’s that friendly to everyone. You’re not special.
- What direction does she want to steer the conversation? I’ll just follow her lead.
- How much of an asshole can I be and still get away with it?
- What is my body language saying? Should I manspread to exhibit alpha energy, even if my natural reaction is to be as small as possible? Will that come across as fake if I do so?
- Wow, she’s talking a lot; Thank god I don’t have to deal with this on a daily basis.
- What can I say instead of what I’m really feeling to keep the atmosphere casual?
- What a lucky dude.
- Where do you even find women like this?
- Who can I roleplay as to get through this conversation?
- Is there any subtext to her words? Probably not; I can usually take people at face value.
- How much can I pretend to show I care without my fabrication being too obvious? How much even should I pretend to care?
To sum up, the incel needs to be less apologetic and needs to choose his battles wisely - only where he can be himself. It’s not much, but it’s a start. If only he could find a way to not feel unique and different (the myth of uniqueness as his therapist puts it). Nobody is better or worse off for their lifestyle choices, himself included.
[...]incel 28 - bad RNG
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Would the incel fare better in a place with less people? The majority of the people his age in the more remote parts where his relatives live made an active effort to reach out to him and his family. A desire to connect seemed somewhat ingrained in them. He doesn’t want to imply that his environment is to blame for his social ills, but he can’t help but feel like there’s some way to move the process along.
[...]incel 29 - copium
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The incel wants to indulge in the amenities of the modern world, but he doesn’t want to spend money, so therefore he should plan not to consume product. Only when his desire to consume product and the value that product would bring into his life outweigh the physical cost will he consider consuming product. Any other thought process outside of the one outlined is very likely to be a waste of time, and probably some form of self-pity in disguise. He could also perhaps convince himself that he never wanted to consume product in the first place (sour grapes), but a lie like this is guaranteed not to last for long. He could also consider coming to terms with not consuming product and facing the problem head on. He could also put himself in positions where he doesn’t have to think about consuming product. Finally, he could remind himself of the opportunity cost of consuming product and have something to show for his invested time and effort (education, skills, creations, friendships).
[...]incel 31 - liabilities
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The incel is starting to feel that the women one courts tend to be liabilities rather than assets, and remembers his classmate complaining the other day about dating someone with no personality. Case in point, the incel recently hangs out with a friend of a friend, and the entire time, he can’t help but feel like he is babysitting her and walking on eggshells when it comes to steering the conversation. He is aware of the polarizing effect of the word “normie” but that word seems to be the most succinct summation of his feelings of sheer boredom and disillusion at trying to converse and reach common ground. There is no bark - no bite at all - with normies.
[...]incel 32 - the pope is bullying me
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The incel’s default mode of conversation is to correct and judge people on what they’re doing suboptimally in order to fit his viewpoint of the world. He has gotten better creating conversations rather than commands out of his opinions, but still, the tendency to bully people into his way of thinking remains. Women probably see this from a mile away, and properly choose to not associate with the bully and surround themselves with positive, affirming people (for better or for worse).
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